Dr. Shoemaker joins the BetterHealthGuy Podcast for Episode 238
Episode 238: Two Perspectives, One Mission: Advancing the Conversation on Mold Illness and CIRS - Neil Nathan, MD and Ritchie Shoemaker, MD
In this special episode, Neil Nathan, MD and Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, MD come together to share their distinct perspectives on mold-related illness and Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS).
Drawing on decades of clinical experience and research, they explore where their approaches converge and differ across diagnosis, urine mycotoxin testing, MARCoNS, GENIE, environmental assessment, Actinobacteria, nervous system regulation, VIP, treatment approaches, and overall recovery.
The conversation offers two evolving perspectives on complex chronic illness with a shared goal of helping patients regain health and resilience.
Learn More and view other episodes of the BetterHealthGuy Podcast Here
Featured Resources for Community
Shoemaker Protocol™ Quick Start:
The 3 initial steps to determine if mold is affecting you One of the most common questions we hear is, “how do I know if I have mold illness?” Rest assured, if you’re asking this question, you’ve come to the right place.
AirOasis The #1 CIRS Spring Cleaning Hack
Specialized air purifiers are revolutionizing deep cleaning, no matter the season. They’re a game changer for remediation purposes, too.
CIRS Spring Cleaning Checklist
Living with CIRS means cleaning and maintenance efforts must be ongoing and up to CIRS-safe standards. Spring is a perfect time to do a thorough examination and cleaning of the entire home and create a schedule for the year ahead.
CIRSX Annual Conference June 5-8, 2025 in Tempe, Arizona!
Early Bird Discount ends March 7!
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